Citizenship at Kamikaze

[Hybrid Theory]

And Not To Knock Seb But Dude If Your Gonna Keep Tabs
On Anything Your Times Should Be Exact Because Around Isnt Cool Sometimes The Span Of 5 Minutes Makes A Large Differance. Show Them That We Mean Business By Doing It Right Down To The Tee So When It Comes Time To Look At The Case File We Have Exact Times And Dates And We Are Very Detailed In Our Reports And The Flying Club Can Use The Around And About Story. So If Your Were Reading Reports Who's Would You Believe The Guy Who Is Thorough Or The Guy Who Sounds Unsure And Has To Guess Times And Stuff?
Once Again I'm Not Knocking Seb But Im Pissed That Our Track Is Getting Taken Away So Lets Do It Right And Nail The Fixed Wing Dudes To The Cross!

[JOKER]

I know that alot of people are upset and blaming the plane guys. Lets not get carried away though and make things worse. Lets stick to the system and fix it the right way not the wrong.

[Pipeous]

This is the wrong approach guys. Conflict resolution. Agressive tactics now will only widen the gap. I know I spouted off as I was mad too, and I have an attitude. But that was disappointment talking.

Can't you guys tell they are sick of the complaints allready? Let's let track officials and board members be the ones to write the city, not every Tom, male thingy and Harry.

If we have an incident to report, we should forward them to say Roger or Ronny (not to miss anyone) who could summarize the info and pass it along in a documented report, with times and DETAILS (like Hybrid says).

Please stop the bickering. Let's just take what they offer this year and once we prove we are "worthy" we can ask for more times and dates.... maybe ask for an extra day for a trophy race, that kind of thing.

We are the new kids on the block and are stirring the stuff too much right now. We need to step back now, say sorry, and assure them we will abide by the rules....

[stonesavage]

I agree barry well said!! let's just take what they give us and be gratefull!!! 1 day on the weekend would be fine!! this is a racetrack!! and there are lots of places to just bash!!!

[JOKER]

Pipeous I dont think I could have summed it up any better than that. Alot of people are very upset and saying things that just arent true. I know that everyone here wants the best resolution and I think that in time we can hopefully get the best results. I think you are correct as well in taking the times that we have been alotted for this year and show them that we can make it work and then work on more days next season.

[Nutter]

Guys, as much as it does suck, Barry made it very clear by correcting me several times on the phone that there was a track - no matter how tightly we promise to follow the rules and be good users, we aren't able to show them now. It's not a matter of taking what they offer this year, because as it stands now that's nothing - this has to be resolved before the track can be used again, and if that isn't before May 16, there won't even be a track to beg for use of.

[stonesavage]

Well untill I hear from roger there is stiill hope and for the meantime nobody is to use the track!!

[666mike666]

shelby26 said:

lol i was thinkin the same thing orrrr get a synthesized radio n flip threw the channel til u find one you like. ;D n down she goes BOOM!

I like that idea lol

[INFERNO]

I don't think that was a very productive way to think on the issue, maybe it would be best if you discuss your frustration with one of the club executives if you feel there is something negative from another group you are feeling or experiencing.
Posting negative actions like this only show immaturity on the clubs part and while anger can sometimes cloud good judgement it should not make decisions that will eventually lead to more conflict.

[666mike666]

sorry

[mikem]

Hmm, interesting situation...as almost everytime I go to the track (which is often) I do see cars in the airplane parking lot, and you know they don't do anywork on their area.