R/C united

[Deanihilator]

Well it looks as though the main reason for poor turnout at Kamikaze is due to way the club is being run and no one has balls to tell Roger about it.
I for one think Kamikaze is the best track we've had in lower mainland.It needs a little more work , but it's really coming along now.
I know how allot of people don't want to work on track on their day off , but come on !!!
I don't want to do it either , but if we all sit on our duffs then who is going to do it ??
Nobody wants to be told to get out there and corner marshall , but on same note , you shouldn't have to be told.
I know these are just a few of the issues people have , but I'm hoping we can work this all out and maybe just maybe next year we could have points series and and big prize for points leader at end of season.
I for one would show up to each and every single race in order to get all the points i can.
I know many have said "It's all about fun"....what's more fun than being monster truck champion and winning an rtr buggy or a plane or a boat or whatever it may be ??
I can't solve all the problems so hopefully some will have the balls to stand up and be heard by those that can make a difference.
If you have a problem that you don't want the world to know , then PM me and your "problem" will be relayed and your name will be kept anonymous on my word.
I only want both tracks to flourish and work in harmony.

As i sit looking at my plane i won a couple years back at cam r/c I contemplate how long my glow plug that i won at riverside will last

[Dr. Paint]

Adam, Ronny and Roger are running the club this year. I wouldn't single out just one guy... but you can only be that informed.

[Deanihilator]

seb said:

Adam, Ronny and Roger are running the club this year. I wouldn't single out just one guy... but you can only be that informed.

I didn't mean to come across that way , i only meant if there was a problem they could go to Roger and tell him the problem.
Yes i should have said you could go to any of the other guys , but Roger is always at the shop and therefore accessible.
Sad to see such a great track go to waste.
I put allot of blood and sweat into that track as did many others
I'll be out on Saturday and hopefully we can get a turnout.

[Pipeous]

I have put more time working on the track this year than driving on it to be honest DIRT. I go out Fridays when I can and take Val since that is his only day to play. I feel bad when I can't get him to the track since I got him into rc. I have no problems with the way things are run, though I would sure like to see less rocks and wood supports on jumps covered. How about a cutoff section for electrics? maybe they can bypass the jumps for the big classes. It was nice to have the break between rounds too at the wcorcs races.

I am going to run gas truck as well for next year. one track I will run mt and the other gas truck. run both at big races (if there are enough classes to warrant it.)

btw, good to hear your back around bud

[D3V]

What happened to the racing, i remeber the first couple races had huge turn outs and the racing action was awsome?

[Deanihilator]

I know you are just one of many that are ok with situation Pipe , but there are many that have issues.I wish we could work this whole thing out.
I have no problems with the way camr/c is being run.
I have fun when i go there , as i did on Sunday at Riverside.
Must of been forty people at Riverside on Sunday.
It appears that the majority of people could care less about Kamikaze and that is really sad.I have been guilty for missing most of the season , but i really needed time off.
I'm gonna come out on Saturday Pipe . Maybe we'll see ya there.

Snipit

wintermute said:

I hope to see you at the track sometime.

I hope to see anyone there sometime.

[PoCoMo]

I've had many inquiries and committments at the store during the past week. Sounds like quite a number will be out for racing tomorrow.

[Pipeous]

man. I am so close to being ready. if I can come up with $10 to race, I am in. I mioght just come out to help out though. I miss the gang.

[RegalMaxx]

man i would of been there but the skipper had me go on short notice , the positive side of it is that i caught over a ton of fish in three days ;D now to get some parts to have my truck ready to Rock!

[stonesavage]

dirt said:

Well it looks as though the main reason for poor turnout at Kamikaze is due to way the club is being run and no one has balls to tell Roger about it.
I for one think Kamikaze is the best track we've had in lower mainland.It needs a little more work , but it's really coming along now.
I know how allot of people don't want to work on track on their day off , but come on !!!
I don't want to do it either , but if we all sit on our duffs then who is going to do it ??
Nobody wants to be told to get out there and corner marshall , but on same note , you shouldn't have to be told.
I know these are just a few of the issues people have , but I'm hoping we can work this all out and maybe just maybe next year we could have points series and and big prize for points leader at end of season.
I for one would show up to each and every single race in order to get all the points i can.
I know many have said "It's all about fun"....what's more fun than being monster truck champion and winning an rtr buggy or a plane or a boat or whatever it may be ??
I can't solve all the problems so hopefully some will have the balls to stand up and be heard by those that can make a difference.
If you have a problem that you don't want the world to know , then PM me and your "problem" will be relayed and your name will be kept anonymous on my word.
I only want both tracks to flourish and work in harmony.

As i sit looking at my plane i won a couple years back at cam r/c I contemplate how long my glow plug that i won at riverside will last

hehe enjoy your glow plug! I would have to agree with what dirt has said having worked part time at a local hobby shop i have heard alot!!! of complaints first hand about how the club is not a true club and its one man"s way or the fn hwy and how its not a fun experiance anymore and they will never go and race there again! Its really a shame because its a great track with tons of potential!!I dunno mabey things will change next year and then we can all come together as one!but thats up to certain individuals. cheers

[MrPink]

I am not a member so i probably should not say anything , but... I have only watched a couple of races at the kamikazi track and even from the stands , I agree that the "fun factor" was lacking . maybe not for all though . but it definitley was for some . maybe the track should hold off on organized events and just start form the begining with some fun bashing days to get the crowd back , with no pressure to conform to rules . just my .02 -

[DoubleJ]

A race day is pretty simple. It's not rocket science.

You come, set up your stuff, pay the entry fee, you get your buggy/truck running and maybe tune for a bit, help prepare the track, corner marshal if it's your turn, race if it's your turn. What is so hard about that?

If someone doesn't have a good time but simply doing what I said above, then their not having fun because they make it not fun themselves.

It's as fun as you want it to be. And it's NOT hard to do what I said above and still have a great time.

I haven't made every race this year, but I've made quite a few and I've had fun EVERY time. I'm trying to think of when other's haven't had fun... I've seen certain individuals get upset in the heat of a main, but in the end it's all friendly competition (well ok, short temper for some ;-) I'd like to hear reasons people come up with why they don't/didn't have fun that are totally out of their control.

People that blame other people for not having a good time, whatever, cry me a river. It is what you make it.

I haven't heard any substantiated comments yet about the club being run poorly or whatever. People have the opportunity each and every race at the drivers meeting to pipe up and offer comments or suggestions on how they would like to see things run better. Never happens...

The track has never been better! Seriously it's leaps and bounds over what it was even a few weeks ago.

Come out and fun already...

JJ

mrpink said:

I am not a member so i probably should not say anything , but... I have only watched a couple of races at the kamikazi track and even from the stands , I agree that the "fun factor" was lacking . maybe not for all though . but it definitley was for some . maybe the track should hold off on organized events and just start form the begining with some fun bashing days to get the crowd back , with no pressure to conform to rules . just my .02 -

[MrPink]

I agree with you , but it is clear that some people are not happy or there would be more showing up for races . That's all I was sayin . It is what you make of it . You can have fun if you want to .or you can make it a bad time for yourself . I am not trying to put down the organization or the track , I am grateful the track is there and that there are people willing to donate there time to run it . But sometimes problems are not brought up because no one wants to be the first to say " hey , i have a problem with.... " and if you don't solve underlying problems , they turn into larger problems and people just look for easy ways to get away from the problem , ie: go to a different track . But there is enough support for multiple tracks and it would be a shame to see competition between them that results in bitterness and tracks eventually being shut down .

[Pipeous]

It's mainly about track work. the ones that don't like to come, don't like to be reminded they have to hurry up and work on the track before a qualifier, then corner marshal. a couple guys were asked a number of times to get out and help, were docked a lap or two off their main total, got mad, and that was that.

Sure I have seen the difference it is to be at races with zero work done by racers, and yes it's fun. That's a clay surface. Packed clay has it's ups and downs too, and I have t remind myself that when we talk about camrc track. Clay is fun when it's sunny, but sure sticks to your rc when it gets wet (hello, we live in the lower rainland on the wet coast lol). I will defend camrc in the wet dept hands down as I have been out there one day it rained so hard we were under on gazebo, picking our electronics up and huddling watching a river run across the track... it was too funny. but we went out and ran again as it drained nicely and we didn't have to water for the rest of the day.
I am sure people have other reasons, but I know that is one complaint. and it was pretty rocky for a time. the carpet idea was good until the threads came off and were catching arms and such lol.
only thing I don't like is hearing somebody freaking on a corner marshal. hell if you want to see tirrany, you should race with the race nazi calling lol. no mercy minutes from him haha (Martin is awesome, seriously, he runs it stern but fun). PoCoMo calls a good race, and things run smooth. If you could have a complaint, it would be he gives too many mercy minutes to guys before starting a race (so lets thrash him for compassion haha).

It's funny, we all know we have to work on the track, we all say we know, but PoCoMo always has to remind us to get out there, every qualifier, of every heat, of every race. Can you blame him for being a little cynical after years of doing it? hell I am guilty myself sometimes, anybody other than maybe Mr Flibble that says they aren't, is lying to themselves, no offense.
We grew in membership this year, so the racing turnout lately isn't all the problem **** either, (which always gets blown out of proportion). Yes the new track had a great turnout, but then it's a bunch of new people getting involved into off road that usually run on road, plus some of the camrc guys and such. it's a misconception I think. let's face it. some of us raced a lot of out of town races this summer and have been burnt out for a couple weeks. I didn't touch my ride for almost 2 weeks. I traded for some different toys, and that got my interest to wrench again. that said

CAN'T WAIT FOR SUNDAY GUYS, so we can toss some dirt, eat barbequed smokies, take a walk down to the river, see my best friends, talk some smack, share some stories and enjoy another fine weekend, not to mention I am dying to see the new grass.

[Dr. Paint]

Lots to read since I haven't been racing or reading the forum. Here are a few things that I think should be mentioned again:

A race day is pretty simple. It's not rocket science.

You come, set up your stuff, pay the entry fee, you get your buggy/truck running and maybe tune for a bit, help prepare the track, corner marshal if it's your turn, race if it's your turn. What is so hard about that?

I haven't heard any substantiated comments yet about the club being run poorly or whatever. People have the opportunity each and every race at the drivers meeting to pipe up and offer comments or suggestions on how they would like to see things run better. Never happens...

...having worked part time at a local hobby shop i have heard alot of complaints first hand about how the club is not a true club and its one man"s way or the fn hwy and how its not a fun experiance anymore and they will never go and race there again!

I guess it's their right to not go wherever they don't want to go:


Here is a few other maybe helpful maybe not helpful things:

1. Cam RC doesn't alow advertising at the track... what's more fun than that, nobody is trying to stuff their product down the throat... I would think this helps with the fun factor.
2. Can it be that some complainers are "sponsored" and when they show up for racing it's no longer abour fun, but mostly bussines.
3. Somebody needs to maintain the track. The club members should all try to contribute with whatever they can.
4. Agreeing with somebody just because they became your "budy" only because they promissed you that they can get you 5% or 10% or 40% off for every purchase you make or whatever deal they can get you is not worth it. So make your decisions based on what you think, and not based on whatever somebody tells you to think.

Here is what people need to do: Go everywhere and see for yourself, then make up your own mind. See for yourself, decide for yourself.

If you can, make a difference, try to help out with something, I bet that will make you feel much better inside.